Comments on: is it un-islamic to be suffering from a mental health problem ? http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/ Biblical Principles For Healthy Living Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:38:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: shaybani_yusuf http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-221 shaybani_yusuf Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:54:38 +0000 http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/#comment-221 You are sadly misinformed. In Islam there is no crime in having mental problems and ilnesses. In fact the mentally ill are excused responsibility for their actions- so for example if a Muslim did blaspheme while being in a state of insanity they would be excused in sharia. Islam is a merciful religion - there is a famous story of a simple bedouin who came into the Prophets mosque and started to urinate - many people got angry with him but the Prophet waited for him to finish then went and kindly explained that mosques are for prayers and remebering God not for defectaing and ********* in. There is another story when the Prophet was given a sermon to a large group of people. A mentally ill woman came and took his hand and walked around Medina with him. He let her do this, following her, never scolding her or telling her he was giving a sermon and she should wait. The fact that you consider they would be liable to execution is a sad indictment of how much propoganda there is. You are sadly misinformed. In Islam there is no crime in having mental problems and ilnesses. In fact the mentally ill are excused responsibility for their actions- so for example if a Muslim did blaspheme while being in a state of insanity they would be excused in sharia. Islam is a merciful religion – there is a famous story of a simple bedouin who came into the Prophets mosque and started to urinate – many people got angry with him but the Prophet waited for him to finish then went and kindly explained that mosques are for prayers and remebering God not for defectaing and ********* in.

There is another story when the Prophet was given a sermon to a large group of people. A mentally ill woman came and took his hand and walked around Medina with him. He let her do this, following her, never scolding her or telling her he was giving a sermon and she should wait.

The fact that you consider they would be liable to execution is a sad indictment of how much propoganda there is.

]]> By: Haseena http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-220 Haseena Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:25:45 +0000 http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/#comment-220 Keep in mind: everything that happens to you good or bad is determined by Allah (GOD) Narrated Usamah ibn Sharik: I came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and his Companions were sitting as if they had birds on their heads. I saluted and sat down. The desert Arabs then came from here and there. They asked: Apostle of Allah, should we make use of medical treatment? He replied: Make use of medical treatment, for Allah has not made a disease without appointing a remedy for it, with the exception of one disease, namely old age. And no, it is not un-islamic to be suffering from a mental illness. Keep in mind: everything that happens to you good or bad is determined by Allah (GOD)

Narrated Usamah ibn Sharik:

I came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and his Companions were sitting as if they had birds on their heads. I saluted and sat down. The desert Arabs then came from here and there. They asked: Apostle of Allah, should we make use of medical treatment? He replied: Make use of medical treatment, for Allah has not made a disease without appointing a remedy for it, with the exception of one disease, namely old age.

And no, it is not un-islamic to be suffering from a mental illness.

]]> By: NekoMimi http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-219 NekoMimi Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:10:29 +0000 http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/#comment-219 I ask this same question of all religions and no one will answer me... Mental Illness is a BIOLOGICAL ILLNESS... NOT and illness of the soul... So should the soul be held responsible for the failings of the body? I ask this question when I'm trying to get an answer: I am a good Religious woman... I have never done anything that I was not allowed to do under my faith... But then I get a brain tumor... It grows and grows and grows and starts pressing on parts of my brain that make me go out and sleep with anyone that will say yes and then go to my church and kill everyone inside... I am arrested, diagnosed with the tumor, and have the tumor removed... Once it is removed I am myself again... The courts decide that I am not responsible for my actions because the TUMOR caused me to go insane... BUT IS MY SOUL RESPONSIBLE TOO? Would I go to hell? My body betrayed me... Not my soul... So in the eyes of a just and loving god then I would not go to hell even though I did HORRIBLE THINGS... BUT If THAT is the case then that means that ****** is in heaven right now... Hitler was Bi-Polar... He had many ancestors that were institutionalized for mental illness... He was abused as a child... He was addicted to methamphetamines... (Which they didn't know destroyed your brain and made you crazy back then) Hitler killed millions and millions of people... BUT He was mentally ill... An illness caused by his BODY BETRAYING HIM... If any of the above things never happened to him (The abuse, the inherited mental illness, and the drug addiction) then he would not have turned out as he did and would not have killed all those people... SEE? You can't have it both ways... Either the soul is liable for the dysfunction of the body or the body is independent of the soul... Either way you end up in heaven, not hell! It's a conundrum no? I ask this same question of all religions and no one will answer me…

Mental Illness is a BIOLOGICAL ILLNESS…

NOT and illness of the soul…

So should the soul be held responsible for the failings of the body?

I ask this question when I’m trying to get an answer:

I am a good Religious woman… I have never done anything that I was not allowed to do under my faith…

But then I get a brain tumor… It grows and grows and grows and starts pressing on parts of my brain that make me go out and sleep with anyone that will say yes and then go to my church and kill everyone inside…

I am arrested, diagnosed with the tumor, and have the tumor removed…

Once it is removed I am myself again…

The courts decide that I am not responsible for my actions because the TUMOR caused me to go insane…

BUT

IS MY SOUL RESPONSIBLE TOO?

Would I go to hell?

My body betrayed me… Not my soul…

So in the eyes of a just and loving god then I would not go to hell even though I did HORRIBLE THINGS…

BUT

If THAT is the case then that means that ****** is in heaven right now…

Hitler was Bi-Polar…
He had many ancestors that were institutionalized for mental illness…
He was abused as a child…
He was addicted to methamphetamines…
(Which they didn’t know destroyed your brain and made you crazy back then)

Hitler killed millions and millions of people…

BUT

He was mentally ill… An illness caused by his BODY BETRAYING HIM…

If any of the above things never happened to him (The abuse, the inherited mental illness, and the drug addiction) then he would not have turned out as he did and would not have killed all those people…

SEE? You can’t have it both ways… Either the soul is liable for the dysfunction of the body or the body is independent of the soul… Either way you end up in heaven, not hell!

It’s a conundrum no?

]]> By: Sara - http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-218 Sara - Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:04:20 +0000 http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/#comment-218 No. In Saudi Arabia, they have laws that differ from other countries; They are more strict. This has nothing to do with Islam. And who says seeing apparitions count as mental illnesses? I'm sure people in general go through the many superstitious moments in their life. So, to answer your question. A mental/psychological illness is not against the religion; There are many different types of mental illnesses, and God created people the way he intended to. You obviously do seek medical attention for this, but really..I don't see how mental illnesses relate to religion? And we aren't vulnerable, you idiot. Islam is a religion of peace and acceptance; If you can't accept that, try discussing this with your a.s.s. because that's about how smart your theory is. :) No.

In Saudi Arabia, they have laws that differ from other countries; They are more strict. This has nothing to do with Islam.

And who says seeing apparitions count as mental illnesses? I’m sure people in general go through the many superstitious moments in their life.

So, to answer your question. A mental/psychological illness is not against the religion; There are many different types of mental illnesses, and God created people the way he intended to. You obviously do seek medical attention for this, but really..I don’t see how mental illnesses relate to religion?

And we aren’t vulnerable, you idiot. Islam is a religion of peace and acceptance; If you can’t accept that, try discussing this with your a.s.s. because that’s about how smart your theory is. :)

]]> By: MuslimRose(Amira) http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-217 MuslimRose(Amira) Mon, 27 Nov 2006 05:41:00 +0000 http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/#comment-217 strictest religions on earth ?!lol islam is the most flexible and sane religion if only u read about it! we don't believe in Ghosts, ... mental illness, u just said it it is an illness , he should seek treatment , and u are accounted for ur deeds when u are adult and sane grown up , but mental illness..is another issue...so does that sound strict to u?! don't think so. strictest religions on earth ?!lol
islam is the most flexible and sane religion if only u read about it!

we don’t believe in Ghosts, …
mental illness, u just said it it is an illness , he should seek treatment , and u are accounted for ur deeds when u are adult and sane grown up , but mental illness..is another issue…so does that sound strict to u?! don’t think so.

]]> By: janettasarah http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-216 janettasarah Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:05:13 +0000 http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/#comment-216 Mental health problems are illnesses and how can it be un-islamic to be ill?? Where did you get this idea from? In Islam (like in most other religions) they would try to cure the illness. Mental health problems are illnesses and how can it be un-islamic to be ill?? Where did you get this idea from?
In Islam (like in most other religions) they would try to cure the illness.

]]> By: rachel f http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-215 rachel f Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:41:17 +0000 http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/#comment-215 I thought that was a requirement? I thought that was a requirement?

]]> By: Sentry http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-214 Sentry Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:21:34 +0000 http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/#comment-214 No, it will be anti-American not to have mental health problems. No, it will be anti-American not to have mental health problems.

]]> By: Blackacre http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-213 Blackacre Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:22:21 +0000 http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/#comment-213 You'd be treated about the same as you would by the clergy of any denomination of Christianity. Possibly better. You’d be treated about the same as you would by the clergy of any denomination of Christianity. Possibly better.

]]> By: Happy 2 Be... http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-212 Happy 2 Be... Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:42:55 +0000 http://healthylivinggodsway.com/religion-spirituality/is-it-un-islamic-to-be-suffering-from-a-mental-health-problem/#comment-212 maybe so... but it's definitely pro-humane to suffer from mental health! . maybe so… but it’s definitely pro-humane to suffer from mental health!
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